human-talk for "::"

[John Robert Gardner <jrgardn at emory dot edu>]

Reading more and more on XPath, I'm wondering if there is any agreement on
a human-readable rendering for "::" -- looking at David's recent post on
the outputing full path, in the following:

ancestor-or-self::*  could be acceptably "read" as "ancestor-or-self
_which is_ *" or, in longer discursive form, "any ancestory or self which
is an element node" ??

I know this is a very personal-tastes oriented question, but I'm wondering
how to explain to a non-programmer the "verbal sense" conveyed/represented
by the "::"

thanks for any suggestions,

jr


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