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Re: Bug 1015: request for new locale for Belarusian language variant(be_BY@tarask)
- From: Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar dot hrachyshka at gmail dot com>
- To: drepper at redhat dot com
- Cc: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:47:46 +0300
- Subject: Re: Bug 1015: request for new locale for Belarusian language variant(be_BY@tarask)
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Hi Ulrich,
Now that Petr just told me you are in charge, could you please comment
on this?
/Ihar
On 06/19/2011 03:35 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
> Hi,
> could you please make a point on this bug? No reaction is not very
> polite, really...
> /Ihar
>
> On 04/23/2011 02:23 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> any updates on this new be_BY@tarask locale? What info is missing for
>> you to finally take action on this bug? It's 5.5 years old already!
>> Best regards,
>> Ihar
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 03:11, Ihar Hrachyshka
>> <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi libc-locales ML,
>>> any updates on Belarusian @tarask locale variant? I put some
>>> additional comments on Bugzilla per Petr Baudis request. Please take a
>>> look.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ihar
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:55, Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>> Prelude: This issue was raised at GNU C Library Bugzilla about five
>>>> years ago, and still there is no final resolution. Discussion on
>>>> Bugzilla is stalled, and it seems like active glibc maintainers and
>>>> contributors don't monitor it hence I write this email to
>>>> libc-locales@. It would be great to see some progress on this issue
>>>> and finally get this locale variant in upstream.
>>>>
>>>> This email was sent to Libc Steering Committee but I was forwarded to this ML.
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> The Belarusian language community affiliated with open-source feels
>>>> there's a time for creating the additional sub-variant of the be_BY
>>>> locale (suggested name -- be_BY@tarask, where @tarask stands for a
>>>> special IANA registered -tarask modifier).
>>>>
>>>> Such sub-variant would denote the locale data and text (translations
>>>> etc.) represented in the fairly popular in Belarusian community
>>>> informal variant of the Belarusian language, which is standardized in
>>>> the book:
>>>>
>>>> "ÐÐÐÐÑÑÑÐÑ ÐÐÑÑÑÑÐÑ ÐÑÐÐÐÐÑÑ. ÐÐÐÑ ÐÑÐÐÑÐÐÑ. ÐÑÑÐÑÐÐÑ ÐÐÑÐÐÐÑÐÐÑÑÑ",
>>>> Audra, ÐÑÐÑÐÑ-ÐÐÐÑÐ, 2005. (title translation: "Belarusian classical
>>>> orthography. Set of rules. Modern normalization.")
>>>>
>>>> The community feels that the current situation, with locale and text
>>>> data mixing both of the variants, serves bad both translators and
>>>> users. Separation of variants, like proposed, would facilitate both
>>>> effectiveness of translating process, for translators, and consistent
>>>> feel-of-product, for consumers. Among others, there were requests from
>>>> one of the local embedded hardware vendors who wanted to supply his
>>>> firmware with the aforementioned language variant support but felt the
>>>> lack of such locale in upstream GNU C Library distribution.
>>>>
>>>> The issue had already been raised c.June 2005 as a Bugzilla issue
>>>> (http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1015), but then
>>>> the community didn't agree on some points (naming etc.), and the issue
>>>> was suspended. Now, sort of consensus has been reached and both
>>>> "sides" of the dispute are now endorsing this request to create the
>>>> additional sub-variant of the be_BY locale with suggested name of
>>>> be_BY@tarask.
>>>>
>>>> The needed locale files are attached at the corresponding Bugzilla page.
>>>>
>>>> Don't hesitate to ask me for any additional comments if needed. I also
>>>> put Belarusian localization mailing list in Cc in case you need to
>>>> hear from community.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to hear from you soon,
>>>> Ihar Hrachyshka
>>>>
>>>
>