Re: [rain1 at airmail dot cc] Delete abortion joke

[Carlos O'Donell <carlos at redhat dot com>]

On 05/02/2018 03:08 PM, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 05/01/2018 08:30 PM, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>>>   To the best of our knowledge, terminating a program by calling this
>>>   function is not against the law in any jurisdiction, but there are
>>>   some jurisdictions considering laws to censor information about such
>>>   procedures.  Regardless of your opinion on the procedures, we hope you
>>>   will support our opposition to censorship.
>>
>> This is now satire, an even more difficult culturally relative form of
>> literature. I would not recommend this either.
>>
>> Why don't we find a solid common ground in wording that relates to
>> censorship and abortion.
> 
> As I just said to RMS, I formally object to the inclusion of ANY
> replacement for the joke.  I do not think that this subject should be
> discussed at all within the GNU C Library Manual, because I think that
> no matter how it is worded it winds up sounding like we're mocking the
> reader's actual beliefs about abortion - whatever they happen to be -
> by drawing a comparison to the termination of computer processes.

I agree with that. I also object to ANY replacement of the original
joke.

However, I must cede that there could be different viewpoints in the
community, particularly from RMS and Alex, and so I want to use this
patch as a discussion point over what it is they actually want to
state publicly.

> Perhaps those that feel strongly that the FSF should be taking a
> position on this -- which I can sympathize with -- should write up an
> editorial to be published on fsf.org or gnu.org, instead.

I agree with that also, which was roughly my second suggestion:
https://www.sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2018-05/msg00003.html

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.