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Re: Please advice w.r.t. language/tcl


On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Jonathan Larmour <jifl@ecoscentric.com> wrote:
> Øyvind Harboe wrote:
>>
>> I took over as a maintainer after the original authors. I'd say the
>> chance is slim.
>> There is no manpower to hunt everybody down who contributed.
>
> Ugh. Yes, strictly it needs permission from all Jim copyright holders -
> anyone who has contributed meaningful (i.e. copyrightable) changes. Would
> it help to know that people who contribute small changes and fixes do not
> need to be consulted? There has to be something amounting to a
> copyrightable "work" for copyright to be relevant.

Not much. It's a lot of work just to dig through the CVS and figure
out who added what. Subversion would be significantly easier,
but still a lot of work.

>
>> Jim Tcl has an eCos repository in it's official CVS server. I haven't tried, but
>> it should be possible to delete Jim Tcl from eCos and add the Jim Tcl
>> eCos repository
>> to ECOS_REPOSITORY.
>
> That hack does not work for configtool users, so it's not a great solution.
> I'm sure you or I would be fine, but quite a lot of people use the
> configtool in fact. It may be the least worst option though.
>
>> Jim Tcl for athttpd is optional, so only anyone using
>> Jim Tcl for athttpd, would need to add Jim Tcl to ECOS_REPOSITORY.
>>
>> I don't know if ecosconfig would protest against the unused missing Jim Tcl
>> module, but hopefully it would only produce an error if Jim Tcl was
>> actually in use.
>
> The relevant CDL in ATHTTPD can be made "active_if CYGPKG_JIMTCL".
>
>> Jim Tcl, like jffs2, is used for non-eCos stuff so it needs a
>> diffferent home than
>> the eCos repository. ahttpd on the other hand is only for eCos.
>
> Sure.
>
>>>> http://cvs.berlios.de/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jim/jim/ChangeLog?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's the best way forward here?
>>> The policy has been before that (assuming a compatible licence!) we will
>>> tolerate stuff from existing established open source projects, and as long
>>> as they are self-contained. Apart from the licence issue above, Jim would
>>> fit that. But any changes to Jim to port to eCos should be assigned to the
>>> FSF as they are specific to eCos - the rationale being the same as for
>>> assignments in general.
>>
>> I & Anthony wrote those. They amount to .cdl files + docs + two three #if's.
>
> Anthony is certainly ok, and we need to get you sorted out......

I thought my paperwork was in order! :-)

>
>>> Which reminds me Øyvind, where have things got to in your assignment
>>> process? I believe you started on it a while back, so if there's anything
>>> you want me to chase with the FSF, let me know and I can do some prodding.
>>> You can mail me off-list if so.
>>
>> I filed off a copyright assignment years ago. Got word years ago
>> that it was in order and haven't heard anything since.
>
> You filed a copyright assignment with Red Hat. One was not filed with
> eCosCentric, nor the FSF. A Red Hat assignment is no use for recent work.
> This was as announced here:
> http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss/2005-01/msg00317.html
>
> Has stuff written by you since 2005-01-14 been checked in? If so, that's
> unfortunate. But as long as we get this sorted soon, we don't need to worry
> about reverting stuff. Either way, you'll need to start the assignment
> process off.
>
> To request an assignment form, please fill in the form at
> http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/gnulib/doc/Copyright/request-assign.future?revision=1&root=gnulib
> and e-mail it to <assign@gnu.org>. Be sure to complete the list of changed
> files - that's what assigns your existing changes.

How do I find out what I contributed to eCos in that period?

>
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