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Re: [PATCH] i386: Remove PLT0 and use non-lazy PLT if PLT0 is unused

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Carlos O'Donell <> wrote:
> On 05/07/2017 01:00 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Florian Weimer <> wrote:
>>> On 05/06/2017 05:11 PM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>>> 1. Call external function.
>>>> 2. Call internal IFUNC function.  The best implementation is selected
>>>> for the target processor at run-time.
>>>> 3. Act as the canonical function address.
>>> Audit support is missing from this list.  Audit support needs a PLT stub
>>> which calls the audit trampoline with some sort of function index or
>>> address.
>> This behavior disables LD_AUDIT support with -z now, in addition to
>> export LD_BIND_NOW=1
>> or compiling with -fno-plt.  Also should LD_AUDIT work on external
>> calls inside shared objects linked with -z now?
> Yes IMO, LD_AUDIT + -z now should force the GOT entries to remain forever
> resolved to the stub PLT entry in a read-only mapping. This however means
> keeping around the PLT entries, which is what you're trying to remove, but
> shouldn't without an additional optimization flag.

-z now has disabled LD_AUDIT since binutils 2.26.

>>> I'm concerned that -z now in recent binutils (even without this patch)
>>> removes audit support, when before, audit support was not impacted by -z now
>>> (I think, I'm not sure on this point).
>>> We really must avoid hardening flags which have profound semantic
>>> implications on generated binaries because it discourages people from
>>> enabling them.
>> The impacts for removing PLT0 with -z now are
>> Cons:
>> 1. LD_AUDIT no longer works.
> This is bad. I know of lots of users that are going to be unhappy if we
> continue to remove LD_AUDIT support. For now it works in their own applications,
> but I'd like to see LD_AUDIT work with -z now.

I didn't see any binutils bug report for this issue.  Also there is no glibc
test to check that -z now works with LD_AUDIT.

>> Pros:
>> 1. Make the run-time behavior the same with "export LD_BIND_NOW=1".
> Yes, but it's not a strong enough argument.
>> 2. Disable LD_AUDIT to further improve security.
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is already just as dangerous, so is LD_PRELOAD.
> And secure processes already ignore LD_AUDIT.

This is just a precaution and works with all versions of glibc.

>> I can add a new "-z audit" option to enable LD_AUDIT as much as
>> possible, including
> Why does an existing working feature need a new option?
> Why not add a "-z noplt" like gcc has "-fnoplt" and make both options work
> together to optimize away the lazy call sequence aspects of the binaries?
> We could _also_ add a "-z audit" which is just there to force an error
> if mixed with "-z noplt"

"-z noplt" isn't accurate.  PLT is always needed to call external
functions.  The issue is if PLT0 should be used with -z now.  Since
my patch doesn't change the current run-time behavior, I will check
it in shortly.  We can figure a way to add LD_AUDIT support to -z now


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