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On 19 Mar 2015 15:59, Doug Evans wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Joel Brobecker wrote: > >> Debian stable (wheezy) and newer only have 1.11.6. > >> Ubuntu Trusty and newer only have 1.11.6. > >> Gentoo dropped <=1.11.5 2 years ago. > >> Fedora R17 was the last one to offer 1.11.x (it was 1.11.6). > >> Centos 7 doesn't offer any 1.11.x version. > >> OpenSUSE 12.2 was the last one to offer 1.11.x. > >> Arch Linux dropped 1.11.x 3 years ago. > >> Mageia 2 was the last one to offer 1.11.x. > >> > >> So anyone who readily has access to automake 1.11.[0-5] is using a two > >> year old distro that is no longer supported. Lets use 1.11.6 as it's > >> the only 1.11.x version that is easily available. > >> > >> 2015-03-14 Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> > >> > >> * README-maintainer-mode: Update automake to 1.11.6. > > > > FWIW, I tend to avoid using the auto-tools already installed, because > > I don't know what patches they might contain. Those patches can result > > in small differences which inexplicably show up when you regenerate > > some files after making some modifications. That's why I rebuilt > > them all from source, and use them when regenerating files. > > > > All in all, I'm not against switching to 1.11.6 but we should then > > regenerate all affected files now, and I would prefer it if that was > > done using an unmodified release rather than one that might have been > > modified by the distro. > > +1 on avoiding distro releases. if we follow this logic, why aren't autotools part of the repo, either directly (like readline) or indirectly (git submodules) ? requiring every developer to independently correctly download&build&install a custom version of autotools in their system is, frankly, unreasonable. in Gentoo i've made it dirt simple for people -- older versions of autoconf are available to emerge in parallel and you can select via `autoconf-2.64` or by exporting WANT_AUTOCONF=2.64. but i don't think making Gentoo a requirement would be approved :D. -mike
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