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Re: [Bug localedata/17750] wrong collation order of diacritics in most locales
- From: Keld Simonsen <keld at keldix dot com>
- To: egmont at gmail dot com <sourceware-bugzilla at sourceware dot org>
- Cc: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 09:47:50 +0200
- Subject: Re: [Bug localedata/17750] wrong collation order of diacritics in most locales
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On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 08:14:33PM +0000, egmont at gmail dot com wrote:
> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17750
>
> --- Comment #20 from Egmont Koblinger <egmont at gmail dot com> ---
> (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #19)
>
> > I expect that many languages/scripts have multiple collation rules,
> > depending on use, particularly when it comes to sorting foreign languages
> > using the same base script.
>
> Let's not forget that most languages with Latin scripts do use accents
> regularly. I don't think glibc allows different diacrit ordering for "own"
> accents and "foreign" accents, e.g. in case of Finnish to use forward diacrit
> ordering for ä and ö, and backward diacrit ordering for é and û (and what if
> they're mixed?).
I agree that glibc does not distinguish between "own" accented letters, and foreign.
Bot ä and ö are not accented letters in Finnish, they are genuine separate letters with
their own place in the alphabeth.
> In my opinion, the only valid question is what to do with English in
> territories where French is by far the second most popular language: is it
> reasonable to go with backward diacrits ordering there?
That is what I am suggesting, at least for Canada.
The same reasoning could be done for Dutch in Belgium, and then also the Netherlands.
Best regards
Keld