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[Bug localedata/14641] Deprecate name_fmt
- From: "keld at keldix dot com" <sourceware-bugzilla at sourceware dot org>
- To: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:04:18 +0000
- Subject: [Bug localedata/14641] Deprecate name_fmt
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- References: <bug-14641-716 at http dot sourceware dot org/bugzilla/>
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14641
--- Comment #21 from keld at keldix dot com <keld at keldix dot com> ---
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 06:16:42AM +0000, bugdal at aerifal dot cx wrote:
> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=14641
>
> --- Comment #20 from Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> ---
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 05:48:35AM +0000, keld at keldix dot com wrote:
> > The LC_NAME (and LC_ADDTESS) category addresses a real need for providing
> > culturally acceptable software. Really many cultures use the Family name,
> > first name convention, which is offending to me for my name. The world is
> > rather
> > split in two halves on the order of given name and family name.
>
> That's the naive and mistaken view that resulted in the creation of
> LC_NAME/name_fmt to begin with. In reality there are a lot more
> conventions than just these two, but the prevalence of information
> systems that require names to be stored as a first/given name and a
> last/family name seems to have made their existence much less visible.
> Here are some other cultural conventions:
>
> - Only one name. Attempting to force these into a given/family pattern
> is offensive and results in things like being assigned a "first
> name" of "FNU" and having your given name treated as a family name.
>
> - Multiple names, but all given. Attempting to force these into a
> given/family pattern is almost always offensive because it will
> result in things like "Mr./Ms. Second-name", presenting a name
> backwards as "Second-name First-name", etc.
>
> - Multiple family names. I don't even know how this is typically
> handled.
>
> Wikipedia has some detailed coverage of the issues:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_name
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mononymous_person
I think all of these examples can be covered with the existing LC_NAME spec.
And they were all known at the time of specification.
Best regards
keld
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