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Hello,
I have spotted some mistakes in the fr_FR file of the glibc so we have
talked about that problem[1] on traduc.org[2] mailing list.
The use of 'avril' isn't conventional to abbreviate 'avril' but we've
chosen to use it because the full word is only 5 characters length and
the usual abbreviation is 4.
We have fixed the following translations:
1 - abmon:
jan -> janv.
fév -> févr.
mar -> mars
avr -> avril
mai -> mai
jui -> juin
jul -> juil.
aoû -> août
sep -> sept.
oct -> oct.
nov -> nov.
déc -> déc.
2 - adday:
dim -> dim.
lun -> lun.
mar -> mar.
mer -> mer.
jeu -> jeu.
ven -> ven.
sam -> sam.
References:
- article 'Typographie : date, heure, adresse, téléphone, mail' of
Jacques Poitou, of the university Lumière Lyon-2, indicate the same
abreviations of months (except the one for 'avril' ('avr.'))
- 'Ramat de la Typographie' (2002, ISBN2-922366-01-4) use the same
abbreviations except for 'avril' => 'avr.' and 'juillet' => 'juill.'.
- The 'Office québécois' of the french language advocates 'juill.'
instead of 'juil.'
http://66.46.185.79/bdl/gabarit_bdl.asp?Th=2&t1=&id=3619&D=Abr%E9viations%20des%20noms%20de%20mois
http://66.46.185.79/bdl/gabarit_bdl.asp?Th=2&t1=&id=3617&D=Abr%E9viations%20des%20noms%20de%20jours
- Wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mois) advocates 'juil.' or
'juill' for 'juillet'.
- the article DATE of posthumous document « Orthotypographie, dictionnaire
raisonné » of Jean-Pierre Lacroux advocates the same abbreviations :
http://listetypo.free.fr/JPL/Orthotypo-Lacroux.pdf
3 - d_fmt: in French, the separator is not a dot but a slash!
References:
- Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dates
- The article « Typographie : date, heure, adresse, téléphone, mail » of
Jacques Poitou : http://perso.univ-lyon2.fr/~poitou/Typo/t05a.html
4 - the document n972-14652ft.pdf explains the meaning of grouping in
LC_NUMERIC and I in French we must use 'grouping 3' and not the
useless current 'grouping 0;0' (tested with printf("%'d", 2000000) =>
2 000 000).
References :
- « Tout sur les unités de mesure » of Thierry Thomasset, Université
technologique of Compiègne :
http://www.utc.fr/~tthomass/Themes/Unites/typographie/Typo.pdf
- lesson of maths for physics and chemistry of the 'Université en
ligne' : http://www.uel.education.fr/consultation/reference/physique/outils_nancy/apprendre/chapitre1/titre5res.htm
Regards,
Stéphane
[1] http://www.traduc.org/pipermail/traduc/2008-January/005362.html
[2] http://traduc.org, french translation of Open Source projects
(glossary, tools, desktop, man-pages, howto, etc).
Attachment:
fr_FR
Description: Binary data
Index: fr_FR
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/glibc/libc/localedata/locales/fr_FR,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 fr_FR
--- fr_FR 9 Oct 2007 22:20:33 -0000 1.14
+++ fr_FR 15 Mar 2008 12:28:48 -0000
@@ -3,33 +3,35 @@
%
% French Language Locale for France
% Source: RAP
-% Address: Sankt Jo//rgens Alle 8
-% DK-1615 Ko//benhavn V, Danmark
-% Contact: Keld Simonsen
-% Email: Keld.Simonsen@dkuug.dk
-% Tel: +45 - 31226543
-% Fax: +45 - 33256543
% Language: fr
+% Contact: Traduc.org
+% Address: 18, rue Cavendish
+% 75019 Paris
+% Email: traduc@traduc.org
% Territory: FR
-% Revision: 4.3
-% Date: 1996-10-15
+% Revision: 4.4
+% Date: 2008-03-02
% Users: general
% Charset: ISO-8859-1
+% Authors:
+% 2000-06-28, keld.simonsen@dkuug.dk
+% 2008-03-02, stephane.raimbault@gmail.com
+%
% Distribution and use is free, also
% for commercial purposes.
LC_IDENTIFICATION
title "French locale for France"
source "RAP"
-address "Sankt J<U00F8>rgens Alle 8, DK-1615 K<U00F8>benhavn V, Danmark"
-contact "Keld Simonsen"
+address ""
+contact "Traduc.org"
email "bug-glibc-locales@gnu.org"
tel ""
fax ""
language "French"
territory "France"
revision "1.0"
-date "2000-06-28"
+date "2008-03-15"
%
category "fr_FR:2000";LC_IDENTIFICATION
category "fr_FR:2000";LC_CTYPE
@@ -72,7 +74,7 @@
currency_symbol "<U20AC>"
mon_decimal_point "<U002C>"
mon_thousands_sep "<U0020>"
-mon_grouping 3;3
+mon_grouping 3
positive_sign ""
negative_sign "<U002D>"
int_frac_digits 2
@@ -88,14 +90,17 @@
LC_NUMERIC
decimal_point "<U002C>"
thousands_sep "<U0020>"
-grouping 0;0
+grouping 3
END LC_NUMERIC
LC_TIME
-abday "<U0064><U0069><U006D>";"<U006C><U0075><U006E>";/
- "<U006D><U0061><U0072>";"<U006D><U0065><U0072>";/
- "<U006A><U0065><U0075>";"<U0076><U0065><U006E>";/
- "<U0073><U0061><U006D>"
+abday "<U0064><U0069><U006D><U002E>";/
+ "<U006C><U0075><U006E><U002E>";/
+ "<U006D><U0061><U0072><U002E>";/
+ "<U006D><U0065><U0072><U002E>";/
+ "<U006A><U0065><U0075><U002E>";/
+ "<U0076><U0065><U006E><U002E>";/
+ "<U0073><U0061><U006D><U002E>"
day "<U0064><U0069><U006D><U0061><U006E><U0063><U0068><U0065>";/
"<U006C><U0075><U006E><U0064><U0069>";/
"<U006D><U0061><U0072><U0064><U0069>";/
@@ -103,12 +108,18 @@
"<U006A><U0065><U0075><U0064><U0069>";/
"<U0076><U0065><U006E><U0064><U0072><U0065><U0064><U0069>";/
"<U0073><U0061><U006D><U0065><U0064><U0069>"
-abmon "<U006A><U0061><U006E>";"<U0066><U00E9><U0076>";/
- "<U006D><U0061><U0072>";"<U0061><U0076><U0072>";/
- "<U006D><U0061><U0069>";"<U006A><U0075><U006E>";/
- "<U006A><U0075><U0069>";"<U0061><U006F><U00FB>";/
- "<U0073><U0065><U0070>";"<U006F><U0063><U0074>";/
- "<U006E><U006F><U0076>";"<U0064><U00E9><U0063>"
+abmon "<U006A><U0061><U006E><U0076><U002E>";/
+ "<U0066><U00E9><U0076><U0072><U002E>";/
+ "<U006D><U0061><U0072><U0073>";/
+ "<U0061><U0076><U0072><U0069><U006C>";/
+ "<U006D><U0061><U0069>";/
+ "<U006A><U0075><U0069><U006E>";/
+ "<U006A><U0075><U0069><U006C><U002E>";/
+ "<U0061><U006F><U00FB><U0074>";/
+ "<U0073><U0065><U0070><U0074><U002E>";/
+ "<U006F><U0063><U0074><U002E>";/
+ "<U006E><U006F><U0076><U002E>";/
+ "<U0064><U00E9><U0063><U002E>"
mon "<U006A><U0061><U006E><U0076><U0069><U0065><U0072>";/
"<U0066><U00E9><U0076><U0072><U0069><U0065><U0072>";/
"<U006D><U0061><U0072><U0073>";/
@@ -122,7 +133,7 @@
"<U006E><U006F><U0076><U0065><U006D><U0062><U0072><U0065>";/
"<U0064><U00E9><U0063><U0065><U006D><U0062><U0072><U0065>"
d_t_fmt "<U0025><U0061><U0020><U0025><U0064><U0020><U0025><U0062><U0020><U0025><U0059><U0020><U0025><U0054><U0020><U0025><U005A>"
-d_fmt "<U0025><U0064><U002E><U0025><U006D><U002E><U0025><U0059>"
+d_fmt "<U0025><U0064><U002F><U0025><U006D><U002F><U0025><U0059>"
t_fmt "<U0025><U0054>"
am_pm "";""
t_fmt_ampm ""
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