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Re: How to add crh.po, and tt@iqtel locale's .po for gettext
- From: Reshat Sabiq <tatar dot iqtelif dot i18n at gmail dot com>
- To: Bruno Haible <bruno at clisp dot org>
- Cc: bug-gnu-gettext at gnu dot org, libc-locales at sources dot redhat dot com
- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:40:04 -0500
- Subject: Re: How to add crh.po, and tt@iqtel locale's .po for gettext
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Bruno Haible yazmÄÅ:
> Thanks, that makes it clear which alphabet to use for the crh_UA locale.
>
>> I think these references are out-of-date, or incorrect. They also
>> appear to focus on Uzbekistan population of Crimean Tatars, whereas
>> they now have an official status in Crimea, Ukraine, and appear to
>> have largely migrated from the exile in Uzbekistan back to Crimea.
>
> "largely" or not, I can't tell. A lexicon tells me "they have started
> migrating back (from Uzbekistan to the Crim) in 1989 but the majority still
> is in Uzbekistan". And here are the figures from ethnologue.com (outdated
> or not, I can't judge):
>
> Country People speaking Crimean Turkish
>
> Ukraine 200000
> Uzbekistan 189000 (1993)
> Kyrgyzstan 38000
> Romania 21482
> Bulgaria 6000
> Moldova 1859
>
> So this looks like nearly equal population sizes in the Ukraine and in
> Uzbekistan.
There'd need to be over a million Crimean Tatars living in Turkey in
this list. Total population is about 4-to-6 million, from what i read,
but i'm not sure how it splits between Crimean and Idil-Ural Tatars.
>
> I'd therefore recommend to use:
> - for the glibc locales: the names crh_UA and crh_UZ.
> Use Latin alphabet for crh_UA and Cyrillic one for crh_UZ.
> - for the PO files (translations): Use crh_UA and crh_UZ as well, and
> DON'T create PO files for 'crh'.
I think crh by default should be Latin, because it's official, and in
all 3 countries where Crimean Tatars mostly now live, Turkey, Crimea,
and Uzbekistan, Latin alphabet is pre-dominant. 'Ozbekiston also
switched to Latin, so i'm not finding much ground behind Crimean Tatar
being based on Cyrillic in UZ. Qaraqalpaq language in 'Ozbekiston is
also now officially in Latin. I've never heard of UZ granting an
official status to Crimean Tatar, and i'm sure the community sticks w/
Crimea-based fellows in this regard.
I would think crh should be Latin by default, and if somebody desires in
the future, which i highly doubt, they could contribute crh@cyrillic, or
crh_UZ@cyrillic. That said, I'm not even sure how fast this will proceed
in one alphabet.
Thanks.
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