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Re: PHP fork project- Guile vs Python vs ?


   From: rm@mamma.varadinet.de
   Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:17:45 +0200

   It's allready on the webpage (under 'ideas'). I think
   there should be some link to this project on the main page
   as well.

ok, noted.

   > just to let everyone know: the guile webpages are now being actively
   > maintained again.  we have Peter Norton and Andrew Ho busily working on
   > all parts of the webpages and i've finally figured out the gnu.org
   > cvs<->webpage connection.  the projects page on gnu.org is updated, too,
   > after a three month (!) lag behind the glug.org version...

   Anyplace i can help?

ok, here's the general direction of the webpages (what Peter, Andrew and
i) are working towards:

the guile webpages are being restructured to directly address three
target audiences: newbie, j-r-programmer, and guru.  each area (FAQ,
HOWTOs, "guile for the reformed PERL programmer", internals design and
argument--er---planning, etc) is to follow this general structure.
there is overlap and lots of crosslinks, of course.  additionally we
have an outline of projects that use guile, links to scheme resources on
the net, and other good stuff.  sounds like there is a guile manual in
the works -- that will be certinaly be linked when ready.

we feel it is important to show guile in use and not really spend too
much time justifying guile -- actually the latter is definitely helped
by the former.  also, nobody likes vapor [he says, aware of the irony]
so the embeddability and translation blurbs are to be reworked to say
less so "this can be done" and more so "here is what people are doing",
even if what people are doing is waiting for things like the module
system and full GOOPS integration.

wrt the FAQ, cygnus is offering use of a FAQ-o-matic, which we will
probably try to adopt at some point in the future, but at this time,
Andrew (who is in charge of revamping the FAQ) has decided to get a
concrete page up first and backfill automation later.

because a lot of redundant discussion happens over and over again, many
times repeatedly :->, i'd like to call for a volunteer historian to
collate interesting links to the mailing list archive (at cygnus) and
create a page summarizing these discussions and perhaps offering some
editorial insight.  (this is dangerous, but hey, we're adults. :-) this
task requires a lot of reading, a level head, and some understanding of
technical and human delicacies, so if that's your cup of tea, please
contact me.

generally, if you'd like to help, first identify your relationship w/
guile: newbie, j-r-programmer, or guru.  next, find a task that you use
(or would like to use) guile for.  as you do the task, take notes and
send them to the guile mailing list, marked as a contribution to the
webpage (we will have the skeleton up in a week so that you can suggest
placement).  do not worry about markup -- the webpage maintainers will
see to that -- but do use english and complete sentences.  if there is
code involved, try to keep it small (less than 10 lines), otherwise we
will need to get a copyright assignment.

alright, enough spew for now.  Peter and Andrew, please feel free to add
your thoughts...

thi

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