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You're saying guile should ship with debugging enabled, but it seems like your argument supports something different than this. It seems to me that you're basically arguing that debugging should be substantially more configurable than it currently is. Maybe it should just be off by default but turned on when entering an interactive repl loop? Maybe all code in /usr/share/guile should have some sort of (load-this-with-debugging-turned-off) at the top? -- Harvey J. Stein BFM Financial Research hjstein@bfr.co.il