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It works, it works, sweet merciful crap, it works! With default settings it's slower than a big, lumbering slow thing, but it doesn't crash :) It is still alpha, though, so don't go betting the souls of your first born on it's proper execution. It's also still a pain to install (that's a feature ;). http://home.thezone.net/~gharvey/guile/rgc.0.1.alpha.tar.gz -- Greg