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On Tuesday 26 March 2013 15:35:24 Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote: > > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> > > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:15:17 +0100 > > > > On Tuesday 26 March 2013 13:12:38 Hans-Peter Nilsson wrote: > > i see it the other way. doing `make check` for all these > > packages work w/out the user having to dig into esoteric tools > > (that often times lack documentation, or any real semblance of > > an entry point). > > > > for binutils/gcc/etc..., there are plenty of > > compile/link/etc... tests that can be done without needing to > > know about a board. the sim is special in that testing it > > requires running code, > > Thinking you're good without running any runnnable tests? > I guess we have to agree to disagree here. i didn't say that. i did say that quite a significant chunk of functionality can be exercised w/out executing code. requiring people have to a full stack setup to do even basic testing is wrong. no one writes 100% of their changes, then compiles it, then runs it. people are a lot more iterative and having graduated level of testing enables that workflow. > > so it's entirely reasonable for the > > default `make check` to setup a state where the tests actually > > work. > > You know, if someone went to do the work to provide a default > (overridable) target-board for all cross *-elf et al targets at > the toplevel, I wouldn't mind. cris is the only target that i see today that is failing to work with sane defaults "out of the box". i don't see a global init being necessary (or even useful). -mike
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