This is the mail archive of the cygwin mailing list for the Cygwin project.


Index Nav: [Date Index] [Subject Index] [Author Index] [Thread Index]
Message Nav: [Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next]
Other format: [Raw text]

Re: Plausibility of sendmail?


> Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> If they are so clueless as you suggest then one has to wonder why you
<don't>
> tell them that you're running a Linux OS and using sendmail?!?


They "know" that Linux is *open source* and *dangerous* - because that's
what the VERY political Server Team (who have sold out to Microsoft and all
their propaganda) tells them. The more Wintel boxes, the more *power* they
have. Since their job ends once the box is powered up and imaged with the
*approved and 'supported' corporate load*, their job is done. They could
CARE-A-LESS about anyone else's needs or problems. They run their own
monitoring software on the box to make sure there is no un-scheduled
downtime or lack of disk space. Trying to put Linux on the box would
DEFINITELY be noticed - and would probably result in dismissal. Beyond that
- they (Server Team) are'nt concerned about how the box is actually used
(assuming of course that you have been designated the owner of the
*resource* [which is different from owning the *box* itself - go figure]).
The Server Team has more political clout because they own so *many* boxes,
where you own only a *couple* of resources. Of course all the *boxes* are
simple clones, but that little detail is overlooked by upper management.
It's all a numbers game. So the Server Team's arguments win out over yours
98% of the time. Surely someone who manages a fleet of Cessna's knows more
about flying than one guy in an F-18! - or so the thinking apparently goes.



>> Brian.Kelly wrote:

>> Seems to me you have not worked for many Fortune 500 size
>> organizations - where almost ALL your hardware and software purchasing
>> decisions are made by folks who *PRIDE* themselves on their *LACK* of
>> technical expertise - as if such were somehow evidence of their
>> inability to *MANAGE*. In fact, being a technical guru can often be
>> career death in such places as the *can't do's* endlessly convince
>> themselves that the *can do's* can't "manage people". Which begs the
>> question - "WHAT DOES CHOOSING HARDWARE HAVE TO DO WITH *MANAGING
>> PEOPLE*????????" But they do it anyway. And of course when such
>> *beings* make such decisions, they do so with assumptions like "all
>> open source is BAD" (while their web servers are running Apache), and
>> the CHEAPEST thing is *GOOD* - Intel rather than Sun or HP. Oh, but we
>> can't run Linux because that's *bad* *unsupported* open source!!
>>
>> Then - their job done, and budget shot, they give a nearly impossible
>> task to their *inferior guru's* that really should only be done in a
>> Unix enviroment - enter CYGWIN. Of course it's *bad* open source, but
>> now the *manager* has promised his/her management that this new
>> functionality would be ready by week's end - without consulting the
>> guru's first. So cygwin is agreed to as a *temporary* solution (with
>> the understanding that temporary in such organizations could be two
>> decades instead of three).
>>
>> This is how a need for something like sendmail on cygwin could
>> conceivably come about - happens ALL the time.

> Andrew DeFaria wrote:

> If they are so clueless as you suggest then one has to wonder why you
> tell them that you're running a Linux OS and using sendmail?!?

> Otherwise simply get exim and use it. Works fine.
--
If you think that there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody.



"WellChoice, Inc." made the following
 annotations on 02/02/2004 01:08:25 PM
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Attention!  This electronic message contains information that may be legally confidential and/or privileged.  The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized.  If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful.  If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Release/Disclosure Statement


--
Unsubscribe info:      http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Problem reports:       http://cygwin.com/problems.html
Documentation:         http://cygwin.com/docs.html
FAQ:                   http://cygwin.com/faq/


Index Nav: [Date Index] [Subject Index] [Author Index] [Thread Index]
Message Nav: [Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next]