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Re: [Mingw-users] Cygwin Full download in one big archive ?
- From: "Max Bowsher" <maxb at ukf dot net>
- To: "Igor Gnip" <gnipi at windows-sucks dot com>,<cygwin at cygwin dot com>
- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:25:02 -0000
- Subject: Re: [Mingw-users] Cygwin Full download in one big archive ?
- References: <20021204124607.DFC8.GNIPI@windows-sucks.com> <009701c29bba$df239a70$78d96f83@pomello> <20021204233455.0A3D.GNIPI@windows-sucks.com>
Igor Gnip <gnipi@windows-sucks.com> wrote:
>> Igor Gnip <gnipi@windows-sucks.com> wrote... and I am replying cc:
>> <cygwin@cygwin.com>
>> 1) You are highly unlikely to want to download every Cygwin package.
>> 2) What would you do to update one package in a hypothetical
>> "one-big-file" arrangement? Download everything again?
>
> Well, first time EVER, you download one big file - up to 700 mb that
> is ...
>
> then, use (in this case smart and usefull) web-update to download
> updated (and needed) packages ...
>
> in that scenario, this "big file" would contain web-setup.exe with
> added support for local instalation(from the hdd) ... and with
> configurable (stored in registry or ini file) updates directory
> where web-setup.exe would download new versions of packages as needed.
>
>
>> Files are named <package>-<version>-<release>.tar.bz2. Once a
>> particular file arrives on the mirrors, its contents should *never*
>> change. (It will, of course be deleted some time after it becomed
>> out of date).
>
> I have no problem with keeping-up-to-date once I get all packages on
> my 80-gig HDD. The problem is first download only. It is only
> logical to use web-update ... not web-download-everything ...
>
> so perhaps ... if there is space on red-hat server's hdd ...
> there could occasionaly appear cygwin-full-vx.xx.x.tar.bz2 ?
> containing all those pkgs ?
>
> - I know it is not up to you to decide this but is it possible ?
Impractical. As I said, almost 100% of people won't want 100% of packages.
Frankly, this odd method only makes the slightest sense in your unusual
situation (downloads constricted by number of files not file size).
>> That entirely depends on how much of it you want. The total set of
>> all current package versions and the corresponding source packages
>> comes to a modem busting 577MB.
>
> I _would_ like everything since I can't use linux atm. Too many
> components of my PC without drivers for linux ... scanner,
> satelite-card, USR PCI modem...
tetex ? (Document processing system)
lilypond ? (Sheet music production)
Both multi-megabyte packages for very specialized requirements.
>> The 'Base' category (the minimum officially sanctioned install)
>> comes to 6MB, with no single package in that selection being more
>> than 1.1M (cygwin itself).
>
>> By trimming out packages whose presence in Base is questionable, I
>> get this down to 4.6MB. Still not that nice for a modem, though.
>
> That is not so much. Maybe I will ask some of my friends with better
> phone-lines (in the central city area) to download... and pay
> their bills :)
Be aware that this is a severely minimal system, which will require adding
to if you want to do anything significant with it.
Max.
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