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RE: NO huge packages, please!
- From: "Peter A. Castro" <doctor at fruitbat dot org>
- To: Randall R Schulz <rrschulz at cris dot com>
- Cc: cygwin at cygwin dot com
- Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:38:57 -0800 (PST)
- Subject: RE: NO huge packages, please!
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Peter,
>
> At 10:10 2002-11-07, Peter A. Castro wrote:
> >On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> >
> > > At 09:43 2002-11-07, Peter A. Castro wrote:
> > > >...
> > > >
> > > >... Perhaps it would be better to enhance the Setup tool to be a little
> > > >more robust in it's download processing. Perhaps adding a re-try option
> > > >on an incomplete package pull? I haven't looked into the guts of Setup
> > > >for a while, but I'd bet that this might be doable with a minimum hassle.
> > >
> > > Peter,
> > > Setup does this already.
> >
> >Hmmm, then perhaps this is a more recent addition? I seem to recall
> >having problems in this area a while ago (which is one of the reasons I
> >have a local mirror). That or perhaps it was some other problem and just
> >showed similar symptoms. Since I've been using a local mirror, I haven't
> >experienced anything like what we've been talking about. But, if this is
> >the case, and Setup has had this functionality for a while, then why was
> >the subject of having trouble downloading over an unreliable connection
> >coming up? I'm a bit confused as to which problem we are addressing here
> >now.
> >
> >--
> >Peter A. Castro <doctor@fruitbat.org> or <Peter.Castro@oracle.com>
> > "Cats are just autistic Dogs" -- Dr. Tony Attwood
>
>
> Well, I suppose the conversation drifted a bit. Mark Harig suggesting
> alternate software for mirroring in order to mitigate the effects of an
> unreliable Internet connection.
>
> While it's true that Setup does have a retry facility if something goes
> wrong during download, it's manual: if a failure occurs during package
> download, then when everything is done you get an alert stating that there
> was a problem and asking if you want to retry. Then you're taken back to
> the page of the wizard that downloads the package list and you pretty much
> have to start over.
>
> Far from ideal, really.
Ah, yes, I do recall seeing this. But, I wouldn't really call this a
re-try facility, because if 1 out of 100 packages downloaded with errors,
the "re-try" will pull all 100 packages all over again. A far cry from
ideal, I'd say :) This is why I was proposing something much more
realtime. Such that during the download of a package, if an error
occurs, it prompts you to re-try right there any then. A further
optimization would be to have a checkbox to automagicaly do a re-try up
to a certain number of times.
> On the other hand, wget is pretty automatic and is rather persistent (and
> customizably so) in its attempts to surmount failures during downloads, so
> there's much to recommend it for users with links that exhibit frequent
> failures.
Except that they end up either having to craft the commands to pull only
those package directories they really want, or pull the whole she-bang.
Again, not idea. If I get time, I'll look at Setup and see what it might
take to add this "feature" (no guarantees, though).
> By the way, thanks for giving the details on altering wget's naming
> behavior. I figured it could handle it--it's got so many options--but I was
> a little too lazy to go look it up.
You're welcome :)
> Randall Schulz
> Mountain View, CA USA
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Peter A. Castro <doctor@fruitbat.org> or <Peter.Castro@oracle.com>
"Cats are just autistic Dogs" -- Dr. Tony Attwood
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