RE: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP

["Curt Lindner" <curt at lind-net dot com>]

Well, I did both the ps -e and the ps -A, and neither showed any "dm"s
running.  This after a cold reboot.

When the Mandrake box boots up, it goes right to the KDE desktop.  When I
log out of that, it drops to a console type view, then, after a moment, goes
to a graphical login prompt that says "Welcome to [machine name]" at the
top, and has options for user/pass, session type, a menu option to restart
the x server, and a shutdown option.

I'm using a straight install from the Mandrake 9.0 ISO images, and I tried
to select every possible package during the setup process.

I just assumed that kdm would be running, as if it were some underpinning of
kde.  Remember, I don't know anything about Linux!  I have used eXceed in
the past to log into Sun and IBM unix boxes, so I understand the process,
although that was almost 10 years ago.

How do I get the necessary services running correctly?

-Curt

From: "redhatcat" <redhatcat at fastdial dot net>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 03:12:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP

>do a
>  #  ps -e |  grep dm
>
>  If you sre running a display manager ( xdm , kdm , gdm ) it should show
up
>
>IF you see "gdm" the problem is probably by running "gdmconfig" as root and
going to the
>xdmcp tab and clicking it enabled
>
>Keep in mind if you ran "startx" or something like that to get "X" ; you
don't have a display manager

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold L Hunt II" <huntharo@msu.edu>
To: <cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP


> Curt,
>
> First, lets just double-check that Mandrake 9.0 is still using kdm and
> that your machine was configured to use kdm:
>
> [harold@foo harold]$ ps -A | grep .dm
> 31622 ?        00:00:00 kdm
> 31637 ?        00:00:00 kdm
> 31651 ?        00:00:00 kdm_greet
>
> So, run ``ps -A | grep .dm'' as above.  If some other ?dm is listed,
> then that would explain why editing the kdm config file didn't change
> anything.
>
> Harold
>
>
> Curt Lindner wrote:
> > OK, I'm really confused now.  Yes, I do see a graphical login screen,
and
> > I'm logging into the KDE desktop.
> >
> > However, I did a "ps -A | grep kdm" and didn't get any tasks.  (My Unix
> > command knowledge is about 10 years ago rusty).
> >
> > I ran it on the Linux machine, and tried again, but no different result.
> > kdm does now show up as a task, though.
> >
> > This is getting really frustrating, because now I can't even log in via
VNC
> > reliably, as the server keeps mysteriously quitting (crashing?) on my
> > Mandrake box.  Geez, I'd like to have an alternative server on my
network,
> > but XP is looking pretty good right now!
> >
> > Thanks again, but I guess my problem isn't obvious enough.  With all the
> > init-type files squirrled away in a half-dozen different directories, I
> > really don't see how you Linux folks can figure anything out!  :-)
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > From: "Harold L Hunt II" <huntharo at msu dot edu>
> > To: <cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com>
> > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:08:38 -0500
> > Subject: RE: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP
> >
> >
> >>I don't know that Port=177 and Willing=[anything] are necessary.  But
then,
> >>I do not know much about that.
> >
> >
> >>What I do know is that you have to restart kdm in order for those
changes
> >
> > to
> >
> >>take effect.  The easiest way to do that, short of restarting your
machine,
> >>is to drop to run level 3, then go back to run level 5.
> >
> >
> >>You do that by running:
> >>init 3
> >>[wait about a minute]
> >>init 5
> >
> >
> >>One side question: you DO see a graphical login screen when you sit down
at
> >>your linux machine, right?  If not, you aren't running kdm so XDMCP
> >>connections are not being accepted simply because you are not running a
> >>program that accepts them.
> >
> >
> >>Harold
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Curt Lindner
> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:18 PM
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > Subject: Re: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP
> >
> >
> > Harold, I did set "Enable=True" in the kdmrc file.
> >
> > Per the XDMCP-HOWTO, I also set Port=177, and I note now that the
Willing=
> > keword is blank.
> >
> > Was I not supposed to set Port=177?  Should I set "Willing=" to some
other
> > value?
> >
> >  Thanks for the response.
> >
> >  -Curt
> >
> >
> >>>From: "Harold L Hunt II" <huntharo at msu dot edu>
> >>>To: <cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com>
> >>>Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 00:05:57 -0500
> >>>Subject: RE: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP
> >>>Reply-to: cygwin-xfree at cygwin dot com
> >>>
> >>>Curt,
> >>>
> >>>You may have read a lot of FAQs, but did you read:
> >>
>
>>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-xfree-faq.html#q-mandrake-8.1-xd
m
> >>cp?
> >>
> >>
> >>>That should help you out.  Please email the mailing list if that solves
> >>
> >>your problem.
> >>
> >>Harold
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com
> >>[mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf Of Curt Lindner
> >>Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:10 PM
> >>To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> >>Subject: Can't Get XDMCP Login on Mandrake 9.0 Box from XP
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm a complete Linux/Cygwin/Xfree newbie, so please go easy on me!
> >>
> >>I've been banging my head the last few evenings to try and set up Xfree
on
> >>my XP machine to allow me to have remote sessions on a PC I have running
> >>Mandrake 9.0.  I have read everything I can find on the newsgroups and
on
> >>the cygwin websites, and the how-to's and mini-how-to's on the LDP site.
> >>I've set all the settings I can find to set in Xaccess, xdm-config,
kdmrc,
> >>etc., etc.  I cannot solve this problem.
> >>
> >>I can start Xfree86 on my XP box using the batch file provided with the
> >>standard installation.  I can telnet into the Mandrake box.  I can use
> >>"xhosts +", then export the DISPLAY to my XP machine, and successfully
> >
> > open
> >
> >>an xterm/emacs/etc session on the XP machine.    I can also run VNC just
> >>fine both ways (XP to Mandrake & Mandrake to XP).  I can also use
Terminal
> >>Services from Mandrake to XP.
> >>
> >>So, why can't I get a login screen when I edit the batch file to start
> >
> > XWin
> >
> >>using "-query mandrake-ip, -from xp-ip" ??
> >>
> >>I always thought I knew my way around an operating system, I know how to
> >
> > set
> >
> >>up router filters, but man, this has really humbled me!!  :-)  I'm
amazed
> >>that you folks can keep this stuff straight!
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance for any pointers that might be provided.  I really
don't
> >>want to use VNC, as it's not as refined as the X windows option.  I'm
sure
> >>you folks agree!
> >>
> >>-Curt
> >>
> >
> >
>