Re: Rootless mode revisited...

["Thomas Chadwick" <j_tetazoo at hotmail dot com>]

FYI - I've taken down the binary I posted to avoid any confusion with 
Harold's test release of XWin -rootless.

> From: "Thomas Chadwick" <j_tetazoo@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:52:56 -0400
>
> By the way, my ISP seems to be blocking downloads of exe's.  Zipping it 
> seems to work.  Please download the exe using this URL instead...
>
> http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.zip
>
> > From: "Thomas Chadwick" <j_tetazoo@hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com, zakki@peppermint.jp
> > Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
> > Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:21:25 -0400
> >
> > I tried out this patch (took a few days because I needed to get xfree86 
> > out of CVS and build it).  Very cool.  Thanks a bunch to MATSUZAKI for 
> > coding it!  You saved me a lot of work.
> >
> > Here's a screenshot...
> >
> > http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/pseudo_rootless_screenshot.gif
> >
> > Notice that you can see IE in the background along with some Windows 
> > desktop icons down the left side of the screen.  The windows in the 
> > forground are Xclients (namely xterm, xclock, and xeyes).  The icon in the 
> > lower left is an iconified Xclient.
> >
> > However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless 
> > mode...
> >
> > 1) When you click and drag on an Xwindow to move it, you only see the bits 
> > and pieces of the "rubber band" outline which happen to overlap the other 
> > Xwindows.  Where the rubber band overlaps Windows windows, you see 
> > nothing.
> >
> > 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window 
> > manager's root-window menus.
> >
> > 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, which is due to the lack of a 
> > root window causing the mouse focus to jump back and forth XWindows and 
> > Windows.
> >
> >
> > Still, if anyone wants to try it out, here's a binary that I built last 
> > night from source I pulled from CVS yesterday...
> >
> > http://home.adelphia.net/~tlcweb/cygwin/XWin.exe
> >
> >
> > > From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke <zakki@peppermint.jp>
> > > Reply-To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
> > > Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
> > > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:30:50 +0900
> > >
> > > Thomas didn't talk about X Shape Extension.
> > > I think Thomas's idea is something like this.
> > >
> > > With this patch and "-nodecoration" option, it seems to work good.
> > >
> > > << pseudo-rootless.patch >>
> >
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