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RE: How can any grown adult use the term "potty-mouth" without cringing in embarassment?
- From: "Dave Korn" <dave dot korn at artimi dot com>
- To: "'Talk Amongst Yourselves'" <cygwin-talk at cygwin dot com>
- Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:18:38 -0000
- Subject: RE: How can any grown adult use the term "potty-mouth" without cringing in embarassment?
- Reply-to: Talk Amongst Yourselves <cygwin-talk at cygwin dot com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-talk-owner On Behalf Of Robb, Sam
> Sent: 14 January 2005 20:07
> > a) The term "potty mouth" is a euphemism for "profanity"
> > and/or "obscenity" and/or "swearing".
> True; but the rest of your argument is predicated on the
> idea that "potty mount" is *only* a euphemism. IMHO, there
> are some nuances implied by using the term.
> In my experience, at least, it's used primarily when a child
> says something profane *primarily* to offend, embarass, or
> just to make someone who objects to that sort of language
> uncomfortable. They don't care about the word itself, they
> just want to get a reaction out of someone else.
Fair point. I may even have not looked too hard for nuance of meaning to the
term, since what I was writing was really rhetoric or polemic, guised as
syllogism. So I'm a sophist. So sue me.
> Use of the term was intended, I think, to convey the idea
> that leaving the (purportedly) obscene material in the
> fortune data files as plain text didn't really serve any
> useful purpose, unless that purpose was to intentionally
I'm not sure. Since it was plainly established from the word go that it was
meant to be ROT13'd, it would be paranoia to suggest it was intentional. I
didn't see anyone at any time suggest that this was a deliberate provocation; as
far as I was aware everyone accepted that it was a mistake.
No, I think the use of the term was intended in a purely perjorative sense, to
deny that the material could possibly have any worth, to belittle it. It was a
value judgement that attempted to impose the values of the person who used the
term on the debate.
Can't think of a witty .sigline today....