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Re: Hosting under the SFC umbrella


Yann, list...

On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> wrote:
> Hello All!
>
> Some time ago, I asked the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) if they
> would be willing to host the crosstool-NG project. They now have
> answered, and we've been offered membership:
>     https://sourceware.org/ml/crossgcc/2014-04/msg00013.html
>
> For those of you who do not know, SFC is a not-for-profit organisation
> whose goal is the advancement of Free Software. Their website clearly
> explains what they're doing:
>
>     http://sfconservancy.org/
>
>     Software Freedom Conservancy is a not-for-profit organization that
>     helps promote, improve, develop, and defend Free, Libre, and Open
>     Source Software (FLOSS) projects. Conservancy provides a non-profit
>     home and infrastructure for FLOSS projects. This allows FLOSS
>     developers to focus on what they do best -- writing and improving
>     FLOSS for the general public -- while Conservancy takes care of the
>     projects' needs that do not relate directly to software development
>     and documentation.
>
> There are quite a number of very well-known projects hosted at SFC, of
> which:
>
>     BusyBox, Git, Inkscape, Mercurial, PyPy, Samba, SWIG, uClibc, Wine
>
>
> This offer of membership is just an offer; crosstool-NG is not yet a
> member project of SFC. We must first discuss whether to accept or not
> this offer, and if we accept, under what terms we will join SFC.
>
>
> We now have some questions to answer before we get hosted under the
> SFC's umbrella. All contributors to the crosstool-NG project, whether
> they contributed code and/or documentation, and/or helped on the mailing
> list and/or the IRC channel, as well as users of the crosstool-NG
> project, are encouraged to answer those questions, and participate in
> the discussion.
>
> The SFC proposal comes with a template of an agreement we'd have to
> sign. This template is just that: a template. I propose we use it as a
> basis for our discussions. The template is available there:
>     https://sfconservancy.org/members/apply/ConservancyFSATemplate.pdf
>
>
> ----
>
> First and foremost, do we want the crosstool-NG project to be hosted
> by the SFC, at all?
>
> Before you answer this question, please be sure to review what SFC
> does, and whether that's what you believe the crosstool-NG project
> needs.
>
>
> ----
>
> SFC wants the project to have (in their own words) a Project Leadership
> Committee (PLC). The PLC is in charge of managing the project, serves
> as the interface between the project and SFC, and should be at least
> three persons.
>
> We currently have no such thing as a PLC, so we must create one. I
> suggest we use the terminology of SFC to name this the "Crosstool-NG
> Project Leadership Committee" (CPLC for short.)
>
> As to how to form the CPLC, my preference would go to the second form
> of committee, the "Self-Perpetuating Committee, w/ avoiding employees
> of same company serving together" with three seats. If you have another
> suggestion, do not hesitate to say so.
>
>
> Those interested in joining the CPLC are encouraged to say so. Others
> are encouraged to name those they would like to see serve on the CPLC,
> with either of those statements:
>
>   - to run for a seat on the CPLC, and cast a vote at the same time:
>
>     I, FIRST-NAME LAST-NAME, run for a seat on the CPLC.

I, Bryan Hundven, run for a seat on the CPLC.

>   - to nominate someone for the CPLC, and cast a vote for that person:
>
>     I, FIRST-NAME LAST-NAME, nominates FIRST-NAME LAST-NAME as
>     a contender for a seat on the CPLC.
>
> Each voting person can cast at most three votes. A vote is either a
> run for a seat (a vote for oneself), or a nomination (a vote for
> someone else.) If you've been nominated, but would prefer not to serve,
> please say so.
>
> The run is open until 2014-05-31 23:59:59 UTC. Date headers in the
> emails will be observed to check the date limit has been respected.
> The only exception will be to let people who did not explicitly run
> for a seat but were nominated by others, refuse this nomination.
>
> The three contenders that get the more votes by that time will get
> to serve on the CPLC. If there is a tie between one or more contenders
> by that time, I, as the current "Benevolent Dictator By Default",
> will cast as many arbitrary votes as necessary to break the tie, but
> only to break the tie. If there is less than three contenders by that
> time, I will privately contact some contributors to ask them them if
> they will be willing to join the CPLC, and will publish the results to
> the list when the CPLC is complete. If it is not possible to get three
> persons seating at the CPLC, we'll see with SFC what can be done to
> resolve the situation.
>
>
> As a side matter, we will have to define what the role of the CPLC is.
> I suggest we put this aside for now, by simply stating the following:
>
>     The "Crosstool-NG Project Leadership Committee" (CPLC) will take
>     any action to further the advancement of crosstool-NG, in
>     accordance to the agreement signed with SFC.
>
> We can refine this definition later, in the course of the application.
> SFC will most probably be able to help draft a proper definition.
>
>
> ----
>
> SFC acts as a Fiscal Sponsor to the projects they host. What this means,
> is that they are able to receive monetary donations to the project,
> which the project can then spend for its activities (minus a percentage
> kept by SFC for their own expenses at shepherding the project, which in
> their proposal amounts to 10% of donations.)
>
> The project so far was not able to receive donations, and I refused a
> few offers over the years, because I did not want to conflate that with
> my own money at the bank.
>
> Currently, the crosstool-NG project has only one reason to spend money,
> that is registering the two domain names, which I have so far paid with
> my own money: crosstool-ng.org and crosstool-ng.net.
>
> The server is a VM which Oregon State University - Open Source Lab
> (OUSOSL, http://osuosl.org/ ) is hosting at no charge. OSUOSL is also a
> non-profit organisation (an IRS 501(c)(3) ) like SFC. I believe it is
> possible for a 501(c)(3) to transfer money to another 501(c)(3). If so,
> then SFC would be able to donate to OSUOSL a part of the donations the
> crosstool-NG project would receive.
>
> It will be the responsibility of the CPLC to eventually decide what to
> do with the donations, the above being only a suggestion.
>
>
> ----
>
> Assets held by the project, that can be transferred to SFC.
>
>   - domain names: the only assets so far are the domain names. They are
>     currently registered until 2017-01-28. Should we join SFC, I will
>     happily arrange to transfer the domain names to SFC.
>
>   - copyright assignment: SFC does not require that a project assigns
>     copyright to SFC for a project to join. I believe this should not
>     be done for the crosstool-NG project, as I firmly believe that
>     multiple copyright holders is better than a single copyright holder.
>     Should some contributors prefer to assign their copyright to SFC,
>     we'll see with SFC if it is possible to have a mixed solution, with
>     some contributors actually assigning their copyright to SFC, while
>     others retain their copyright.
>
>
> ----
>
> Please, be sure to read all of this, plus the template agreement pointed
> to, above. Feel free to ask any question, voice your suggestions, add
> any point you think important, and discuss all of this: the above is not
> final words, and must be discussed. Please keep all communications
> public on the list.
>
> Thank you again all for all your contributions!
> Thank you SFC for your offer!
>
> Regards,
> Yann E. MORIN.
>
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Cheers,

-Bryan

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