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Hi Chris, I am not the host of cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@sourceware.org. I don't know how to help you. Maybe you send the wrong email to me. Thanks! David On 9/25/07, Christopher Faylor <cgf-use-the-mailinglist-please@sourceware.org> wrote: > [I was trying to do what I suggested and stop sending off-topic messages > here but the last few messages contained some inaccuracies which needed > to be corrected.] > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 05:53:19PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > >Third, your claim that hiding email addresses is "minimal courtesy" is > >actually not true, at least not in the open source world. Here, we are > >all proud of the contributions we make, since notoriety is our only > >payment; obfuscating email addresses, while not uncommon, is certainly > >not universal enough to be considered "common courtesy". We have long > >ago learned that hiding email addresses is largely useless, so instead > >we have turned to spam filtering with a great deal of success. And, has > >been pointed out, the fact that email addresses are not hidden on the > >sourceware lists is no secret: it's stated quite clearly on the web > >page. > > > >Hope this helps diffuse the situation somewhat... > > Thanks for the reasoned response, Paul. > > I have to point something out however. We DO obfuscate the email > addresses on the html archives. See, for example: > > http://sourceware.org/ml/crossgcc/2007-09/msg00049.html > > The policy about not editing the archives is for people who inexplicably > include their email addresses in the body of their messages. Sometimes > these people include their phone numbers and other personal data too. > > We've received complaints from people who claim not to know that the > email that they send to a mailing list would end up on a web site > somewhere and who demand that we do them the service of removing this > data. The policy was an attempt to make it clear what we will and > will not do and the "fee" was intended as a further deterrent for > people who thought that maybe someone would do them "a favor" "just > this once". > > If it isn't obvious to someone that no one is getting rich (or even > getting coffee money) from editing the email archives at sourceware.org > then it seems that they haven't spent too much time thinking about the > issue. If we were raking in money for this, then you'd be seeing > lots of complaints in the gcc, gdb, binutils, cygwin, *and* crossgcc > mailing lists. > > In fact, what I usually do when someone asks to have their data edited > is tell people that it is pointless since their data has been archived > elsewhere. If they still insist then, depending on how obnoxiously they > have been insisting, I often just remove the data for free. In case you > want to know what guideline I'd use here - I'd definitely charge Jon S. > Shapiro for this service. > > The *ftp* archives are not the same thing as the web archives, however. > Until a couple of days ago I, and presumably other administrators, had > assumed that the separate archives in ftp also had obfuscated email > addresses. Now I know that's not the case and I have received buy-in > from other administrators to remove these. So this issue should now be > at a close. > > cgf > > -- > For unsubscribe information see http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq > > -- For unsubscribe information see http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq
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