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On 13 Nov 2015 10:54, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 09.11.2015 17:27, Tristan Gingold wrote: > > there was a lot of work on binutils recently (nice!). > > Previously, I tried to find a period of calm to create > > a release branch, but I wasnât able to this year. > > > > So, how to process ? Is it reasonable to ask developers to > > be quiet ? From my experience, it doesnât work very well > > because we all want to push our new features in the next > > release, so instead of being quiet developers hurry up. > > > > I could also create a branch from a past point, but all > > the bug fixes wonât be in the new release, so there would > > be additional backport work. > > > > So, this is just a call for avoiding submitting new > > features, just to aim at a new release. > > thanks for bringing this up, and for seeking for a path to a release. Not sure > how to address this, however would it be possible to have more time based > releases? Binutils somehow had a yearly release schedule, releasing in "summer" > for the more recent releases, switching to "late summer" for the past releases. > We are in late autumn now. Doing the binutils branch only after GCC enters > stage3 makes sense too. Having an end of year release sounds fine, but if this > then again slips past the GCC releases typically done in March/April every year, > people probably start relying more on trunk builds again? i wouldn't mind every 6 months myself. then release slippage isn't as big a deal. i think the fact that there is only one release a yes is what pushes people to try and get their feature in, even if the quality is subpar. if they don't, then it'll be over a year before users see the results. > Three weeks ago I switched the current Ubuntu development release to use > binutils trunk, finding four or five regressions up to now without doing a full > test rebuild. I'm planning to do that for Debian as well now that the 2.26 > branch is there. Do other distros have experience using the recent trunk? Gentoo used to for a few years but we gave up as it was too unstable. we've been fairly happy with the releases. -mike
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